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A comic about two blue cats who play World of Warcraft, and their gamer human. Written and drawn by Mary Varn.
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The “Elitist Jerks” reference made me giggle.
“I wanna be the very best, like no one every was. To deeps them is real test, to pwn them is my cause”
if only I could upvote.
He’s rather privy for a non-raider. Info-ninja.
The young and the guildless I almost weed my self at that line
Love the Blind Guardian avatar!
Actually he does raid. If you recall, while they were on a camping vacation, Lisa caught him on the laptop tanking Naxx.
-Wes the Sage
Hum.. when Bink published that, I wanna order a copy ^^
*publishes
She’s kinda got a point, there is nothing more frustrating than raiding with people who don’t make an effort and all you get is a huge repair bill.
When 24 other people are counting on you, be prepared! Bring food, flasks and a knowledge of your class and the encounters.
Hmmm I guess my annoyance is showing! I’ve just seen too many people skate through an instance expecting the rest of the party to pull the extra weight for their lazy asses… Grrrr!
She just needs to find a hard core raiding guild, they will appreciate her.
Try it on a free server sometime. walk into an instance/raid and ask “Okay, what’s the strategy here?” and all you get is: O.o *blink blink*
…and when you wipe on Kael’Thas later they ask why you weren’t healing… because they asked you to DPS, and supposedly had a healer who would handle it all no problem…
/nerdrage
There’s nothing wrong with bringing your “A” game. It’s when you gloat over how leet you are, that causes problems.
This is really great; I forwarded it to all my guildmates. They love the reference.
Are you really like that when you raid?
Who, me? No. I haven’t raided since Naxx. And I wasn’t usually number one on the damage meters when I did, except *maybe* Patchwerk.
I’ve always thought it was better to do more overall total damage and not worry so much about the dps meter. Also, at the end seeing that you didn’t require much healing shows you weren’t distracting the healer from their main duty, to keep the tank alive.
WOW. I think you have highlighted one of the biggest areas of contention in the game (besides gearscore). I think that the meters for dps, damage, healing, etc. can be useful when examining effectiveness AFTER a battle or raid, but too often are used to play one-up-manship, belittle or blame. I’ve been in guilds that require certain specs and rotations, which then has me as an AVATAR for them. I have seen other players with different specs and rotations beat what I can do. There has been a leaning to certain classes and specs which are OP and they get the attitude that they don’t need anyone else in the group or raid. I would like to see tanks in groups that NEED the healer, rather than running ahead out of LOS and not caring about the healer’s mana. I would like to see DPS needed to down mobs or bosses before the healer runs out of mana and the tank dies. I hope that Cataclysm returns some balance and emphasizes what each toon brings to the group.
The point of progression raiding is to be the best raiding Group, not the best raiding Individual. Bragging, begging, and barganing are all hallmarks of the latter. Sadly, far too many players fall into this category. And when guilds get sick of their &#$* and throw them out, they end up finding nobody will tolerate them except for others of their own kind. This is where the ‘hardcore raider’ guilds come from. A bunch of individuals who can’t play as a team. The only reason they ever get anywhere is because all the bosses have detailed guides and videos online for their perusal and study. Drop any of their best raid teams into a 100% new, completely undocumented encounter, and they will fail, horribly, and most likely destroy themselves in the ensuing drama storm.
Being the best raiding group means doing what it takes to make everyone there the best they can be. Private coaching, pointing people towards improved gear, a raid leader who knows how to strategize, and people who know how to follow orders as well as keep trying when it doesn’t work the first time. I was a raid leader for about a year during BC. Admittedly, the guild was pretty casual, but that ended up being good for us. We ended up specializing in unorthodox strategies and group makeups, taking what we had and finding a way to make it work. And a big part of that was functioning as a group (and claiming victory as a group), not as a bunch of individuals trying to rock the meters.
Why do I hear the Army slogan running in the background? (“Be the best you can be… in the 25-man Raid”)
Doesn’t this sound like a “Drama Mammas” moment?
I’ve been raiding for 2 years and I recently left a guild where meters were so important that we would wipe because people wouldn’t do the other jobs required. I play a Warlock and I am perfectly happy being in the middle of the pack because I am stunning beasts on Saurfang, fearing MC’s on Lady Deathwhisper, killing orbs in the back of the room on Princes (and when the instance came out, tanking Keleseth), or any number of jobs that reduce your DPS because you’re moving, using a non-standard spell rotation, or otherwise occupied. I switch specs when our demon lock is absent even though my DPS goes down because demon spec helps the rest of the raid. Yes, I love being at the top when I am at the top, but a successful raid requires that people do all sorts of other stuff.
I agree with you completely, I play a hunter and I am constantly being asked to kite this, or juggle orbs or something along those lines. I’ve had the same problem, other classes with less utility during a certain fight being c---y about their dps. It’s annoying lol I don’t care if you can pull 10k dps on Saurafang, without me kiting beasts the group would wipe.
Not to say I couldn’t beat that 10k in a single target fight
Truth be told, I never saw the purpose of progression raiding as “being the best,” at least not in the sense that so many people seem to take it. Before I quit WoW, I was in the second-best guild on the server. The number one guild always got the server firsts a week or so before we could, and after a while we came to accept that as an inevitability. Whereas they were a close-knit team of expert raiders, we unfortunately had a lot of dissension amongst some of our veteran raiders and had to fill our ranks with fresh blood quite often. We came to accept our #2 rank after a while, but I never could forget the mentality my guild leader and officers had during the beginning of WotLK. It was all about being #1, about beating the bosses before everyone else, about getting the gear and little else. I hated it. I’ve never been the absolute best at anything, and maybe that’s jaded me a little, but I chose PvE over PvP because I didn’t want competition, ideally I would’ve liked it if we treated other guilds as friends, chatted amongst ourselves as the elite, learned from one another and bettered ourselves because of it. Instead, the #1 guild I mentioned became like a bitter, hated rival, and it seems any conversation struck between us and them was filled with scorn; hell, when they got the server first for Yogg, they immediately jumped onto our Vent and started talking…well, a lot like Lisa did two pages ago. But I digress.
When I first started playing back in BC, I came across the fortune of joining a guild with a handful of players who had cleared T5 content, but had restarted a guild from scratch. I basically got the chance to skate through T4-5 content thanks to the knowledge of these players; of course, when I say skate, I don’t mean I didn’t put in my fair share. I was always trying to better myself so as not to be a burden. When we entered the T6 content, Sunwell was already slated for release, so we were well behind the leaders, but it didn’t make a difference; we just wanted to play the game and see the content. Before the patch that nerfed all the boss battles, we were actually in Sunwell on the way to beating Brutallus, and after said nerf, we cleared all the way through the raid, beating Kil’Jaeden only a month or so before WotLK came out. See, THAT was the kind of progression raiding I enjoyed, and it’s THAT kind of progression raiding I miss, where it’s not about “being the best on the server” but rather being able to say “Yeah, I beat that boss, and it was epic” and have people look at you in awe, knowing that your triumph was a true feat that only a few were able to see, at least in it’s prime.
There is a fine line here between worthless hanger-on and competitive jerk. I’ve seen both. I’m much more neutral in my usefulness scale…
This could be the start of a Lisa Guild!
Thus starts the drama…
I called this one.
Sounds exactly like every progression raid I’ve ever been on.
I once got kicked from a raid because my BM hunter was out-DPSing the MM hunter, and he convinced the raid -lead I was a n00b for showing up to a raid as BM.
Never mind that I OT’d RS for the FAIL ProtPally.
FYI – It was a Uld-10, I was helping a guildie out, and I was SRSLY over-geared for it, but ..RLY?
Every progression raid I’ve been on was full of -ss-wipes.
Softcore raiders are WAY more mature, and a lot more fun.
Am I the only one who is a little disappointed in Mike for not asking her to tone it down before it came to this point? He obviously wasn’t happy about her attitude, he knew the guild wasn’t either, so why not just say something beforehand, rather than letting the guild spring it on her like that? If I was Lisa, I think I’d be more upset with him than the guild.
She was out of control from the beginning. i bet if Mike said anything, she may have only gotten more controlling and competitive. Oh, what a vicious cycle! :[
I agree, she might have gotten worse but at least Mike wouldn’t be part of the blindside she got when the guild kicked her. Getting blindsided by your boyfriend at the same time would really suck.
uh oh, I think we all have been preparing for the wrong cataclysm.
i hate that being the best thing and all about efficiency and choosing the perfect build and sacrificing your own talents and stuff
sure u have a few basics such as no PvP gear when doing PvE , but u need to allow people to have their own playing styles…..
My guild had 3 ICC raiding groups and i was in the weakest one, we would wipe at 6/12 and have a lot of fun though
while the others broke up due to no progression, we kept on and on, and now we are 8/12 a bit slow i know, but the main point is everyone needs to have fun… thats the purpose of playing, we joke around have fun on ventrilo and thats what keeps me in the game!
this is my small contribution to the discussion
Boy meets girl, girl pawns massive damage, boy is terrified. Seen it a hundred times.
Ah, the intrinsic differance between Relaxed players vs. Competitive players. Come for the anguish, stay for the inevitable compromise.
It is the same as Sith vs. Jedi. We await to see if Lisa will turn away from the dark side or will Mike be forced to become a blue ghost forever looking for respawn.
I have been recommending this webcomic like crazy lately! Tonight, for example, my dad started reading at the beginning. He’s almost up to the Bliz-con fiasco ^_^
Chole’s mouth is way off from were it should be, guessing you are using layers nd moved the wrong one.